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January 04, 2010

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David Brooc--

When you get a chance, read the chapter entitled "Orwell on cruelty" of Rorty's Contingency, Irony, and Solidarity. I'm curious to know what you think..

Ned
But as a society we continue to operate under this absurd notion that novels are somehow "better" for you than other media, or an inherently higher form of art.

See, I think that's a perfectly reasonable position, but my main objection to this post is that you make the exact inverse argument in the first paragraph: that film is now "better" than literature.

Dylan Matthews

See, I think that's a perfectly reasonable position, but my main objection to this post is that you make the exact inverse argument in the first paragraph: that film is now "better" than literature.

That's a personal opinion. I don't expect English departments to stop teaching novels in favor of films, if only for the historical value of the former.

Bryan Hayes

Steven Berlin is on my list of people to take out for a drink, but I don't think its fair to claim that television and film make anyone smarter. Rather the stories being told through them can force us to think harder which may result in a boost to mental capacity.

Old school programming or cinema that focus on one or two characters and one plot don't challenge the mind. However, recent developments (starting with St. Elsewhere, but really coming full circle with things like The Wire and Battle Star Galactica) that involve fifty plus characters and nearly as many plot points challenge the mind.

I'd argue that many new story telling technologies -- from the oral story to the novel all the way through to the telephone or Tweet -- can bump a collective sort of intelligence for a time, but as these story telling technologies become pervasive their mental nutrients become null.

Johnson admits as much towards the end of his most recent book, Invention of Air, as he describes how the factors that catapulted Joseph Priestly to an elevated state of multi-disciplinary productivity are no longer sufficient two centuries later.

Greg Kuperberg

I have no strong opinion about film fiction versus novels for adults. There are great movies and there are great novels. I think that there is more content in one novel than in one movie, but on the other hand it takes much longer to read a novel. I don't see either as "higher" than the other; after all, movies are essentially plays and plays are high art. I guess people are more likely to celebrate kitsch in movies than kitsch in novels, but that is not a fundamental aspect of the issue.

Two things though. First, lots and lots of television and movies for small children is an incomplete upbringing and a misplaced priority. There are millions of semiliterate families across the world for whom the television is the great baby-sitter. Predictably, semiliteracy is passed on to the next generation. A lot of these families expect schools to teach their children how to read, but this by itself doesn't work very well. Moreover, I know of hardly any small children who don't like fiction in some form, and only relatively few who care all that much about non-fiction.

Second, the printed or e-printed word is a vastly better medium for non-fiction than television and documentaries, especially television news. TV news leaves people ill-informed, biased, and aggravated. Even great documentaries aren't all that great compared to books, even though they may add something in some cases that the books don't have.

Bryan H

Good point Greg. A healthy diet is a diverse diet... especially for the young. But I think this remains true for life. The more diversity in media that you consume, the healthier you'll be.

Moderation / equilibrium tends to win out in the long run.

2B

I can't seem to find a link to your argument "that text is an inferior way of telling stories to video," and would be v. interested to view it.

Narwhal Pants

The person who reads and contemplates and discusses War & Peace is more intellectually exercised than the person who watches and contemplates and discusses the new Battlestar Galactica.

I defy you to show otherwise. In fact I don't see where you have presented any argument at all. This entire post strikes me as a rude pronouncement rather than any kind of reasoned point.

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